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FREQUENTLY
ASKED QUESTIONS
Q1). Shouldn't we be focusing on prayer
& evangelism, rather than getting sidetracked
by politics?
The gospel is foundational to all our efforts,
but the church has failed to grasp the powerful
implications of the gospel. By limiting the
gospel message to the individual soul, we
have abandoned the world to the Devil over
the past 100 years or so. Like the Apostle
Paul, we should "not shrink from preaching
the whole counsel of God."
Our personal relationship with God, followed
by our relationships within our families is
foundational, but we must move on from there.
If not, we are guilty of pietism, as distinguished
from true piety. At the heart of Jesus' teaching
is the gospel, the good news of redemption
through his death and resurrection.
The gospel message is summarized in the famous
"Roman Road":
1) "All have sinned" (Rom 3:23),
2) "The wages of sin is death" (Rom 6:23",
3) "Christ died for us" (Rom 5:8), and
4) "Whosoever shall call on the name of
the Lord shall be saved" (Rom 10:13).
Moreover, the Bible tells us that Jesus rose
in triumph over death to secure our redemption:
"For to this end Christ both died, and rose,
and revived, that he might be Lord both of
the dead and living" (Rom 14:9). But the Lordship
of Christ is comprehensive. Jesus death and
resurrection served not only to redeem the
individual, but all of creation unto Himself.
All creation fell with man and all creation
is redeemed with man.
Turning again to Romans (8:21), we learn
that "…the creature [creation] itself also
shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption
into the glorious liberty of the children
of God." In accordance with Jesus last Great
Commission, it is the task and privilege of
the redeemed to call on their fellow men to
believe the gospel. Beyond this they are to
teach all nations "to observe all things whatsoever
I have commanded you…." (Mt 28:20). Every
sphere of earthly activity - church, business,
art, law, education, politics, media, and
everything else - is to be brought under control
of the teaching of Christ.
The church has not yet awakened to the full
implications of the Great Commission, but
Christ will not come again until this task
is accomplished. Nevertheless, the gospel
of Christ has already demonstrated its power
to form and transform the culture of the West.
From the parables of the mustard seed and
the leaven we learn that the kingdom of heaven
starts out imperceptibly small, but expands
to encompass everything. Jesus established
his kingdom at his first coming, to fulfill
the Old Testament prophets and that kingdom
will expand to fill the whole earth prior
to His Second Coming (Mt 13:31-33). Each man
and woman is judged by God based on their
response to Christ.
The only unpardonable sin is the rejection
of God's free offer of mercy and forgiveness
in Him. We must receive Him not only as our
personal savior (Jn 1:12), but work together
for that day in which He is enthroned as Lord
over every realm of creation (I Cor 15:27).
If we assume that society is going to be transformed
automatically by some process of osmosis we
are mistaken. If all scripture is profitable
for instruction in righteousness, do you think
we have any right to ignore God's commands
regarding civil government? If we turn away
our ear from hearing His law, even our prayer
will be an abomination. Thus, it is not an
either or situation. It is true that we must
start with the internal, but the internal
must work itself out to influence the entire
fabric of our culture, including the political
life of our nation.
Q2). Didn't Article VI of the U.S. Constitution
simply mean that none of the state churches
established in the colonies was to take precedence
over any of the others at the national level?
This is the view popularized by Christian authors such
as as John Eidsmoe, Peter Marshall, David Barton
(WallBuilders) and D. J. Kennedy. It's also the
common excuse and the rationale
that a number of the convention delegates
used to justify this action in their own eyes,
but the problem is that there is no neutrality
with God; and if we are not for Him we are
against Him . In context of the Constitution,
it is clearly referring to the oath of office
taken by an individual officeholder. (Quote)
The anti-Federalists certainly took it to
mean that, so it's not just the modern skeptic
who has given it that twist. For example,
Isaac Kramnick, writing in the New York Times
makes this observation:
In 1787, when the Framers excluded all
mention of God from the Constitution,
they were widely denounced as immoral
and the document was denounced as godless,
which is precisely what it is. It's opponents
challenged ratifying conventions in nearly
every state, drawing special attention
to the stipulation in Article VI, Section
3: "No religious test shall ever be required
as a Qualification to any office or public
trust under the United States."
He went on to note, "An anti-Federalist
in North Carolina wrote: "The exclusion
of religious tests is by many thought
dangerous and impolitic...Pagans, Deists
and Mahometans might obtain office among
us."
So what we find is that the Federalists used
their specious interpretation of Article VI
as an excuse to justify their rebellion against
God. However, this rationale was challenged
by many of the anti-Federalists and Christians
during the debates in the state ratifying
conventions.
To help you grasp the enormity of what they
did, suppose Moses had come down off Mt. Sinai
and said, "I know that each of the 12 tribes
has different opinions about religion and
you each have your own established church
and I certainly don't want to create any divisions
among the tribes. Furthermore, I don't want
any one tribe to take precedence over the
others at the Sinai level. So I've decided
to delegate all religious matters to you tribes
and I'm going to remain officially neutral.
I'm going to allow Jehovah to compete in the
free-market place of ideas, but I'm not going
to give Him any special preference. If He's
as great as He says He is, the truth will
out, but I'm not going to give preferential
treatment to any one sect.
What do you think God's response would have
been to Moses at this point?
By delegating this critical issue to the
states and refusing to deal with it, the founders
were in effect breaking the national covenant
with God. According to the principle of separation
of church and state the two institutions are
separate institutionally, but united in cooperation
and commitment to God and His Word for the
governance of their respective affairs. It
is entirely possible to have a civil government
that is committed to governing according to
the Bible and not have a state church.
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Q3). Doesn't the religious
test oath violate freedom of conscious?
That's a straw man. This has nothing to do
with the government trying to dictate to the
conscience of all of it's citizens. It has
everything to do with civil magistrates
swearing allegiance to God and promising to govern
according to His Word. That is the only formula
for liberty, liberty under God's law. If the
magistrate doesn't rule according to the law
of God he will rule according to the law of
man -- the 20th century alone has revealed
what kind of tyranny that produces.
On the contrary, it is God dictating to a
would-be ruler that if he aspires to rule
under God, He is going to have to swear allegiance
to God and to govern according to His law.
There are numerous examples of this in scripture
such as Joshua 24, Jonah 3, II Kings 23. Was
that a violation of freedom of conscience?
Rather than jeopardizing liberty,
the religious test oath guarantees it.
Q4). But aren't we a pluralistic nation
whose highest ideal is absolute religious
freedom? Wouldn't a Biblical republic lead
inevitably to tyranny and oppression as Christians
were granted free reign to impose their religion
on everybody else?
Consider this formula: Pluralism=Polytheism.
Or Pluralism=Political Polytheism. In the
United States of America, we've set up a Pantheon
of God's -- Christianity being one -- all
of which get to compete in the free market
place of ideas, with the assumption that "the
truth will out." The question we must ask
is, "Is God pleased with political polytheism?"
Certainly we have freedom of choice, but if
we don't use that freedom to repent and commit
ourselves to following the God of the Bible
in our family, church and state, God is going
to judge us. So we have a choice -- we can
choose pluralism and judgment OR we can choose
to commit our nation to rule under God exclusively
and have blessing. As long as we insist on
pluralistic idolatry in our national life
we will be cursed.
Pluralism is nothing more than a sophisticated
version of Roman polytheism, meaning many
gods. The reason the early Christians were
persecuted by Rome was they insisted that
Christ was supreme among the Pantheon – that
He was in fact the King of kings, a Lawgiver
to whom the emperor must submit. By contrast,
unwilling to rock the boat, modern Christians
embrace polytheistic pluralism as the very
essence of freedom. Under pluralism Christianity
is just one of the Pantheon of God's competing
for our allegiance every 2 years.
We've got to make up our minds: are we going
to be a Christian nation or are we going to
be a pluralistic nation. We can't have both
because the two are utterly incompatible and
at war with each other. Remember that underlying
every legal system is a religion. A law is
nothing more than somebody's religious principle
codified into a statute. Two or more incompatible
legal systems cannot coexist in a single nation
long term; one or the other will prevail and
suppress the other. It is literally a life
and death battle -- and we've got about 30
million infant casualties and the suppression
of Christianity in public life as graphic
evidence of this.
Roger Williams laid the foundation of modern
pluralism in colonial Rhode Island with unlimited
religious toleration. The Rhode Island charter
contained these words: "all men may walk as
their consciences may persuade them, every
one in the name of his god." That's political
polytheism & it sounds hauntingly reminiscent
of the famous line from the Book of Judges:
"every man did that which was right in his
own eyes because there was no king in Israel."
On August 8, 1989 the logical outworking of
political pluralism became clear to all: the
Rhode Island Division of Taxation granted
tax exemption to the religion of witchcraft.
All covens must now be treated as legitimate
churches when it comes to the issue of taxation.
Rhode Island has justly earned the disparaging
appellative, "Rogue Island."(cf.
Gary North, Political Polythesism, p. 315)
Pluralism is not religious freedom, it is
religious chaos and leads directly to the
judgment of God, because God does not tolerate
polytheistic rivals. So are we going to be
a Christian nation or a pluralistic nation.?
Will it be God or witchcraft? Will it be God
or Satan?
Christ doesn't just want a place at the table,
He wants and deserves to be at the head of
the table. The early Christians went to the
lions because they insisted that Christ alone
was King -- it was that political statement
that was so offensive to Rome because they
refused to be pluralists; we need to follow
their example and stop babbling about pluralism.
When you're out witnessing to somebody don't
you insist that Christ is the only way? If
Christ is really King of kings, why should
it be any different when it comes to civil
government?
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Q5. Won't the imposition of the Law of
God on society lead only to tyranny, witch
hunts, etc., just like in colonial New England?
The myth persists that somehow the rule of
God's law is harsh and tyrannical. On the
contrary, liberty is impossible apart from
God's law. It is never a question of law versus
no law. It is always a question of whose law
will prevail and whose law will be imposed.
Will it be the law of man, which has led in
this century alone to untold misery, slaughter,
and tyranny, or will it be the law of God
-- the perfect law of liberty.
Let me give you an example. The heart of
OT civil law is restitution. We read in Ex
22:4 that "If the stolen beast is found alive
in his (the thief's) possession, whether it
is an ox or an ass or a sheep, he shall pay
double." The thief does not owe a debt to
society, but rather to his victim. If that
debt is not paid in duplicate, justice simply
is not satisfied, no matter how many years
are spent in jail. In fact, the Bible nowhere
prescribes jail terms as punishment for crime.
What could be more just than compensating
the victim?
Q6. Wouldn't the rights and freedom of
the non-Christian be suppressed in a biblical
society?
In Israel, the non-believer was referred
to as a resident alien or a stranger. Strangers
were not citizens so they could not vote or
hold public office. However, strangers were
not only given equal protection before the
law (Lev 24:22 -- "Ye shall have one manner
of law, as well for the stranger, as for one
of your own country" ), they were given special
protection under the law. They were classified
with other groups needing special protection:
widows, orphans, & strangers, which were
worthy of a portion of the tithe.
So, while the stranger could not participate
in the government, he was given greater protection
and financial support under the law than the
Israelite citizen. The Israelite was told
to "love him as thyself; for ye were strangers
in the land of Egypt" (Lev 19:33). As a further
check to injustice, oppression of the stranger
was dealt with by God in a very severe manner.
God pronounced a very specific curse on any
who would be so callous as to "afflict them
in any wise....I will surely hear their cry,
and my wrath shall wax hot, and I will kill
you with the sword; and your wives shall be
widows, and your children fatherless" (Ex
22:23-24) Violation of this provision may
have been one reason God judged the New England
Puritans.
Political participation does not equal freedom.
The covering of God's law equals freedom &
the only place you will find that is in a
biblically covenanted nation. Again, we've
got to make up our minds -- do we want a Christian
nation or do we want a pluralistic nation.
If we want a Christian nation, this what it's
going to look like eventually.
In the state of Oregon, the Rajneeshees are
a test tube example of what happens when citizenship
is defined loosely and the franchise is not
controlled. During the 1980s a pagan, Hindu
religious community established itself outside
the small town of Antelope in central Oregon.
Thousands of devotees moved in from around
the world, contributing fabulous wealth to
the cult.
The cult leader was the Bagwahn Shree Rajneesh,
who lived a life of opulence and decadence
in the midst of the colony. He possessed a
fleet of more than 15 Rolls Royces, which
his worshipers bestowed upon him. A picture
in the Portland Oregonian showed them
all lined up in the central Oregon desert.
All of Oregon was in turmoil.
After a year or two, enough of the Rajneeshees
had established residence in the town of Antelope
to elect the mayor and city council. They
thereby institutionally evicted the original
inhabitants, many of whom had lived there
all their lives. Their property became next
to worthless and many moved away. Their way
of life and unique culture was decimated by
the foreign "invaders." The same thing has
happened on a much larger scale in modern
America.
Unger describes the stranger's entry into
citizenship in ancient Israel as a formal
covenant with the people of God: "Should he
desire to enjoy the full rights of citizenship
a stranger submitted to circumcision, thus
binding himself to observe the whole law...."
Q7. Sure the founders referred back to
Roman law, but doesn't Roman Law bear remarkable
similarities to Biblical law?
There are similarities, but we've carried
over many of the critical weaknesses, as well.
The main thing is, if we don't start with
the Bible as our foundation we're going to
eventually run into problems. It's like missing
a button when you are buttoning your shirt.
While there are similarities, the big problem
is that we have also imitated the polytheism
of Roman law, by adopting an official policy
of political pluralism. As noted social commentator
Otto Scott put it....
The United States was a government whose
constitution claimed no higher authority
than its own laws. That was essentially
a lawyer's concept of civilization, and
could be traced not to the church, but
to Roman tradition.
The novelty of a nation without an official
religion was not fully appreciated in
1830 -- for no land was as crowded with
churches and no people more prone to use
religious terminology and Christian references
in everyday speech, in their writings,
and in their thinking, than the Americans.
There was no question of the piety of
millions. There was equally little doubt
that they did not fully realize that a
land with no religious center is a land
where religion is what anyone chose to
claim.
Far from being the ideal document hailed
and heralded in a sea of campaign oratory,
the Constitution was a lawyer's contract
that claimed no higher law than its managers,
who represented themselves as reflecting
the will of the people. Since such a will
was undefined and undefinable, lawyers
made up the rules and procedures of government
as they went along, within limits that
were often ignored, slyly subverted, or
poorly guarded. In effect, the
Founders had recklessly placed the government
in the position of what ancient Greeks
called a "tyrant" which, in its original
sense, meant a rule without divine authority."
Like the Romans, we've got "the form of godliness
while denying the power thereof."
Q8) But in New Testament
times aren't we under grace, not law?
Yes, but what does "not under law" really
mean? That phrase comes from Romans 6 and
in the context of the passage, it means that
we are not under the condemnation of the law
as regards our salvation, but it does not
mean that we are released from
obligation
to live according to the law as regards our
sanctification, both individual and corporate.
The Reformers spoke of three uses of the law.
One use was as a schoolmaster to reveal our
sinfulness and need for a Savior. A second
use was as a guide for our personal obedience.
And the third use was political. Calvin referred
to I Tim 1:8-11 as proof that the Old Testament
law was obligatory on governments in the New
Testament era.
"But we know that the law is good,
if a man use it lawfully. Knowing
this, that the law is not made for
a righteous man, but for the lawless...for
murderers...for whoremongers, for
them that defile themselves with mankind,
for menstealers, for liars, for perjured
persons, and if there be any other
thing that is contrary to sound doctrine.
Here we learn that Old Testament law against
such crimes as murder, homosexuality, kidnaping,
perjury, etc., is applicable to civil government
in New Testament times. Modern governments
are not left to improvise when it comes to
the codification of law. They are required
to look to biblical law, not natural law,
as the model. There is no liberty apart from
the law of God.
If we find this third use difficult or offensive,
we need to ask ourselves 2 questions:
a) Psalm 19 says, "The Law of
the Lord is perfect converting the
soul, the testimony of the Lord is
pure enlightening the eyes......"
Likewise, every verse of Psalm 119
speaks of the excellency of the law
of God. The New Testament calls it
the Perfect Law of Liberty. So the
first question is, "Why would we not
rejoice to be governed by such a gracious,
righteous, and just standard?"
b) Second, if we reject the Law
of God, what standard of political
justice are we going to submit to?
All we are left with is any of a variety
of humanistic standards external to
the Word of God, including natural
law, traditional values, Conservatism,
etc. We come dangerously close to
the condemnation that Jesus leveled
against the Pharisees in Mark 7:7-9
-- "In vain do they worship me teaching
as doctrines the precepts of men.
You leave the commandment of God and
hold fast the tradition of men."
The biblical doctrine of law rejects salvation
by works of the law, Old Testament ceremonial
observances which have been fulfilled in Christ,
and manmade traditions added to the Word of
God (Mk 7:7-9). However, it upholds the lawful
use of God's law as a schoolmaster to lead
us to Christ and as a standard of personal
and political righteousness.
Q9) In developing our political formulations,
shouldn't we try to develop common ground
with the unbeliever rather than get caught
up in all this bickering about the Bible?
Let me try to put that question in a broader
context and relate it back to the founders.
In developing our political formulations there
is a strong temptation to try to establish
common ground with the unbeliever in order
to avoid contention about the bible. Unfortunately,
this temptation has led to untold grief in
the church over two millennia.
With the notable exception of Jefferson most
of the founders wanted nothing to do with
the left-wing of the Enlightenment -- freethinkers
like Rousseau, Voltaire & Hume. However,
the founders were avid disciples of the men
of the right-wing of the enlightenment often
referred to as Scottish common sense rationalism:
Locke, Witherspoon, Blackstone, Grotius, Pufendorf,
Montesque, Burke, and others.
Most of these men were Christians, or at
least gave lip service to the Bible. Witherspoon
as we have noted was a Reformed Presbyterian
pastor. Locke also quoted Scripture especially
in his First Treatise on Government.
Blackstone likewise has a wonderful exposition
on the superiority of Revealed Law in the
introduction to his commentary on the common
law, although he elevates natural law to the
same level as biblical law. But then he makes
only 13 references to Scripture in his entire
4-volume commentary. If this was a systemization
of the common law almost all linkage to scripture
was ignored or abandoned.
The temptation goes like this: The natural
man does not accept the Bible and we certainly
don't want to impose our religion on the non-Christian.
But in common with the unbeliever we seem
to have our ability to reason together, therefore
let's agree together on some common principles
of government, apart from the Bible. The problem
is the Bible gets jettisoned in the process.
We invent noble sounding categories to describe
truth: Natural law, law of nature, self-evident
truth, etc, ignoring the more orthodox classifications
of general revelation & specific revelation.
General revelation is clear, but limited and
intended to drive us to the specific revelation
of God's word for propositional truth.
The problem with natural law comes when we
try to derive propositional truth from nature.
The classic example is Thomas Jefferson when
he said, "we hold these truths to be self-evident
that all men are created equal...." How do
you know when you've got a self-evident truth
by the tail, or just a run-of-the-mill truth,
or a half-truth, or an untruth. Only by the
Bible. It would be just as easy for someone
else to look at nature and conclude "we hold
these truths to be self-evident that all men
are created unequal -- and in fact the strong
exist to cull out the weak." Behold evolution!
Neitsche picked up evolution and adopted it
to the socio-political sphere. The Nazi's
picked up Neitsche and behold WWII -- all
because of natural law and our refusal to
stand forthrightly on the Bible.
This has been a problem in the church for
two millennia. In a futile effort to establish
common ground with the unbeliever, Christians
have abandoned God's Word in favor of natural
law, common sense, traditional values, human
rights, pluralism and conservatism. You name
it -- anything but the Bible. Usually we don't
forsake our formal commitment to the Bible
and to Christ, but we compromise it with these
philosophical idols. Even at the lowest points
of her apostasy, Israel never rejected the
formal worship of Jehovah. But they introduced
idols to compete with Him, which of course,
God does not tolerate. As Herbert Schlossberg
has written, these are Idols for Destruction."
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Q10 Weren't the founding fathers of America
strong biblical Christians who used the bible
as "their great political textbook"?
This is the view popularized by Christian authors
such as as John Eidsmoe, Peter Marshall, David Barton
(WallBuilders) and D. J. Kennedy.
It is difficult to criticize the moral fibre
of these men and the fact that they were religious,
but it is not difficult to criticize the quality
or the essence of their faith. I know I'm
treading on holy ground here, but we've got
to get beneath the religious rhetoric and
examine what they actually believed. This
comes out in the documents that they produced
as we have seen, but it is also in their own
writings and in the writings of those who
knew them very well. As to Washington, consider
this quote from his own pastor, Dr James Abercrombie,
assistant rector of Christ Church in Philadelphia:
"That Washington was a professing Christian,
is evident from his regular attendance
in our church; but, Sir, I cannot consider
any man as a real Christian who uniformly
disregards an ordinance so solemnly enjoined
by the divine Author of our holy religion,
and considered as a channel of Divine
grace." He was referring to Holy Communion,
which Washington refused to take. He always
walked out the back door on communion
Sunday, while his wife went forward to
kneel with the other communicants.
The fact that Washington refused to participate
in the ceremony of Christian Covenant renewal
is clear evidence that his covenant commitments
lay elsewhere. One of those commitments was
most certainly to the anti-Christian oaths
of Freemasonry; the evidence is overwhelming
that he was not simply a mason, but a mason
of the highest rank. Even the oaths required
of the Blue Lodge, the supposedly innocuous
first three degrees, are a blasphemous violation
of the 3rd commandment. The name
of God is invoked to sanction the crime of
murder. Please refer to the documents on "Washington
the Freemason".
The Washington enigma is perhaps best explained
in a book by Paul F. Boller called "George
Washington & Religion." Boller was an
evangelical trying to make sense of the huge
volume of conflicting material about Washington
-- not a skeptic or a liberal. He concluded
that when Washington died, he held such a
commanding stature in America that there was
a strong tendency for writers to portray Washington,
religiously, in their own image and busily
accumulated pious fables about Washington's
religious habits, most of which cannot be
substantiated.
Other examples abound. For example, Christian
historian, Gary DeMar pointed out a few years
back that a quote commonly attributed to James
Madison was actually uttered by his cousin,
Pastor James Madison, not "the Father of the
constitution." That quote says in part that,
"We have staked the future of all of our political
institutions...upon the capacity of each and
all of us to govern ourselves...according
to the Ten Commandments of God."
Benjamin Franklin was without question a
Deist and a moral pragmatist. He was a close
friend of George Whitfield, but never accepted
his Calvinist Christianity, as recorded by
both men. Jefferson, although not at the Convention,
was a rationalist who believed in the supremacy
of human reason to judge all things, not the
Bible. This is evident in the Jefferson Bible,
in which he excised all the miracles of Jesus?
Hamilton became a Christian late in life after
he had done a lot of damage relative to the
Central Bank, etc. John Adams was a unitarian,
who denied the deity of Christ.
Thus, there is considerable evidence to suggest
that many of the key founders were not as
evangelical in their faith as we may have
been led to believe. Is it possible that John Eidsmoe,
David Barton (WallBuilders), Peter Marshall, and D. J.
Kennedy may have misinterpreted the evidence? Regardless
of what we may think of their Christian faith, it is
clear that their faith was diluted by enlightenment
rationalism, as we have seen.
Unitarian, rather than Deistic, is probably
the best way to characterize them, because
they almost never referred to Jesus Christ
in their public utterances and certainly did
not perceive Him as Lord of the political
realm. Their's was a civic religion whose
purpose was to aid the government, not be
an integral part of it. Religion was seen
as the handmaiden to the state. This would
explain why they produced a document after
the pattern of II Timothy 3:5, "having
the form of godliness, but denying the power
thereof."
Their personal convictions & beliefs
aside, the point of debate is that the document
they gave us is not a thoroughgoing Christian
document. We can't assume consistency of doctrine
just because someone tells us that they are
a Christian and frequently employs religious
terminology.
Q11) But wasn't Israel's Theocracy unique
and not meant to be applied to the Gentile
nations?
As a matter of fact, the national covenant
with God was not limited to Israel in the
Old Testament. Deut 4:6,7 says, "Keep therefore
and do them; for this is your wisdom and your
understanding in the sight of the nations,
which shall hear all these statutes, and say,
surely this great nation is a wise and understanding
people..And what nation is there so great,
that hath statutes and judgments so righteous
as all this law...." Israel was to be a witness
to the nations round about her, who would
be attracted and converted to the law of God.
The King of Ninevah in the book of Jonah (3:7)
is a prime example of this. (Also Amos chapters
one and two provides a negative example)
Q12) But doesn't the 1st Amendment to
the U.S. Constitution guarantee freedom of
religion?
Well, sort of. Men like John Eidsmoe, David Barton
(WallBuilders), Peter Marshall, and D. J. Kennedy usually
point to the First Amendment, "Congress shall make no
law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting
the free exercise thereof". Any way you look
at it, that's not any kind of positive commitment
on the part of the Federal government to conduct
its affairs in compliance with the Bible.
As Jesus said, "He who is not for me is ultimately
against me." What the Constitution really
guarantees is religious neutrality and that
is not acceptable from a Biblical point of
view. Neutrality leads ultimately to slavery.
What we are really saying to God is....OK
God we're going to allow you compete in the
free market place of ideas here, but we can't
give you any special preference.
Q13) Wasn't the Constitutional Convention
Illegal?
Yes it was, but Christian historians such as
John Eidsmoe, David Barton (WallBuilders),
Peter Marshall and D.J. Kennedy usually sweep
this evidence under the rug. The delegates had been
given writs which authorized their assembly "for
the sole and express purpose of revising the
Articles of Confederation and reporting to
Congress and the several legislatures such
alterations...."
Article XIII of the Articles forbade that
"any alteration at any time hereafter be made
in any of them; unless such alternation be
agreed to in a Congress of the United States,
and be afterwards confirmed by the legislatures
of every state"
Article VII of the Constitution ignored Congress
and the state legislatures, declaring that
approval of 9 state conventions would abolish
the Articles:"The Ratification of the Conventions
of nine states shall be sufficient for the
Establishment of this Constitution.
Q14) Are you one of those scumbag dominionists?
The concept of dominion has gotten a lot
of bad press recently, but it actually has
quite a noble tradition. It would appear from
scripture that even God is a dominionist.
For example, Psalm 72 says that "He shall
have dominion also from sea to sea, and from
the river unto the ends of the earth. May
his foes bow down before him, and his enemies
lick the dust! Yea all kings shall fall down
before him; all nations shall serve Him."
Charles Spurgeon -- known as the Prince
of Preachers -- commented on this Psalm in
The Treasury of David that "David was
not a believer in the theory that the world
will grow worse and worse, and that the dispensation
will wind up with general darkness, and idolatry.
"Not so do we expect, but we look for
a day when the dwellers of all lands shall
learn righteousness, shall trust in the Saviour,
shall worship thee alone, O God...." For centuries
this was the blessed hope of the church; the
phrase "Church Triumphant" was used to describe
the anticipated cultural victory.
Let me ask you this. Twelve spies went into
the promised land. Ten returned with an evil
pessimistic report & two said, "sure the
giants are big and the walls are high, but
we are well able to overcome it." If you were
there, would you have stood with the ten spies
or with Joshua & Caleb? If you said Joshua
& Caleb, I guess that makes you a dominionist
then, doesn't it? More and more we need the
attitude of Joshua and Caleb, who said, "We
are well able to overcome it". Likewise, we
are well able to make disciples of the nations
just as Jesus told us to do.
Q15) Isn't this really Christian Reconstruction?
With that question, we're really getting
into hermeneutics or biblical interpretation,
and that's the difficult task for the entire
church. What applies today and what doesn't?
It seems to me that before we talk about that,
the fundamental issue is that we've all got
to agree the Word of God is our standard in
the political realm -- not conservatism, not
traditional values, not human rights, not
natural law, not common sense and not pluralism.
We've got to make up our minds: Is the starting
point in the political realm going to be the
Word of God or do we continue to let everyone
"do what is right in their own eyes."
That should be something we can all agree
on and you'll notice that the civil covenants
we see in the Bible are usually stated in
general terms in which the leader simply promises
to govern in accordance with the Bible. Once
we've crossed that hurdle, we can all work
together to hammer out the details. The fundamental
issue is are we willing to swear allegiance
to God's word or not. The Reconstructionists
have done some work in the area of social
ethics as have other groups, Chuck Colson
for example -- none has the final answer.
The whole issue of biblical ethics has surfaced
again in the past 20 years. We've been out
of practice for a long time, so we're all
learning together to apply the word of God
to the broader culture. I'm committed to helping
make the Word of God the standard in the political
realm. Wouldn't you agree that that's what
we've got to do? If that makes us Reconstructionists,
so be it. Let's get out there and reconstruct
together.
Q16) It's true that the Constitution doesn't
refer to God, but isn't it linked to the Declaration
of Independence, which is the real founding
charter and clearly appeals to God?
There is abundant evidence, both internal
and external to the document, proving that
Jefferson modeled the Declaration of Independence
after the social contract. Most obvious are
its appeal to autonomous human reason rather
than the Bible, and the fact that the source
of governing authority lies in the "consent
of the governed" rather than God. Apart
from the document itself, it is common knowledge
that Jefferson was a devotee of John Locke,
the father of social contract theory.
In addition, it’s worth noting that all three
of the key writers of the Declaration - Jefferson,
Adams, and Franklin - were Unitarian in theology,
according to Dr. John Eidsmoe in "Christianity
and the Constitution." All three denied the
foundational truth of Christianity, that Jesus
Christ is God and therefore King of kings
and Lord of lords today. If a man denies the
Trinity he denies the deity of Christ and
by necessary corollary the Lordship of Christ.
How is it possible for three heretics to sit
down and come up with a covenant that is pleasing
to God? "A good tree brings forth good fruit,
and an evil tree brings forth evil fruit."
See the "Declaration of Dependence on God"
(under "Renew the Covenant" link)
for a rewrite of the Declaration in biblical
terms.
A right understanding of the doctrine of
the Trinity is an absolute necessity for Biblical
government, as Rushdoony has ably demonstrated
in "Foundations of Social Order."
This doctrine provides the only adequate solution
to the philosophical problem of the one and
the many: how to integrate the freedom of
the individual with the necessity of the state.
The efforts of some Christian leaders like John Eidsmoe,
David Barton (WallBuilders), Peter Marshall, and
D. J. Kennedy to confer "sainthood" on Thomas Jefferson
are at the same time amusing and distressing.
Jefferson more than any man is responsible
for the exile of Christianity from public
life in America. He held that each individual
sect was free to teach its peculiar doctrines,
e.g. the trinity, within the confines of its
own sphere. However, in the public arena men
must agree to a generalized public morality
based on their ability to reason together,
not on the Bible.
Jefferson was extremely successful in converting
the churches to this rationalistic/dualistic
view of religion in the public square, Jonathan
Witherspoon being the prime example. In Jefferson
and Witherspoon we have the paradox of two
men at opposite extremes on the theological
scale, who nonetheless found common cause
in the social contract and natural law. It
doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure
out which one gave up the most philosophical
ground.
What we have in the Declaration is a brilliant
piece of wartime propaganda, couched in vague
but emotionally exhilarating language that
both the American Calvinists and the French
Atheists could get excited about. The French
Revolutionists loved that kind of language.
Both sides could read their own meanings into
the phraseology and rally to the cause and
this has continued to the present day. The
Declaration pays lip service to "nature's
god" (whoever that may be), but the source
of authority to which it appeals and on which
it rests is emphatically not the God of the
Bible. Its source of authority is the autonomous
mind of man (self-evident truths) and the
social contract (deriving its just power from
the consent of the governed).
There is, in fact, only a handful of references
to the Declaration in the convetion notes.
At one point, James Madison in his preface
to debates in Convention said, "the Congress
finding moreover that the popular voice began
to call for an entire and perpetual dissolution
of the political ties which had connected
them with Great Britain, proceeded on the
memorable 4th of July, 1776, to
declare the 13 colonies, independent states.
During the discussions of this solemn act,
a Committee consisting of a Member from each
colony had been appointed to prepare and digest
a form of Confederation, for the future management
of the common interests, which had hitherto
been left to the discretion of Congress…It
appears that as early as the 21st
of July, 1775, a plan entitled "Articles
of Confederation & Perpetual Union of
the colonies" had been sketched by Dr.
Franklin.
In other words, Madison viewed the Declaration
as a bridge to the Articles of Confederation,
which were to establish the government. Madison
clearly believed that whatever governing authority
did exist resided in the Articles of Confederation
which were no to be replaced by the Constitution
under consideration. The Declaration was not
a Charter of Incorporation, but rather exactly
what it declared itself to be, a Declaration
of Independence. It dissolved one set of political
bands, but did not establish another.
If the Constitution were really linked to
the Declaration, we would expect to see words
of anticipation on September 17, like, "This
is the moment -- we've totally ignored God
for the last 4 months, but now let's sign
and date this thing so we can make the historic
link back to our Christian roots in the Declaration."
But the discussion of the signing on the final
day in the Records contains no special reference
to the Declaration as the foundational document.
If this link did exist, the Founders did
not seem to give it any special attention.
Most of the discussion focused on the willingness
of delegates to lay aside their personal dissatisfaction
with parts of the document and endorse it
as the best that could be done for the good
of the whole. Franklin expressed his conviction
that the sun on the back of the President's
chair was a rising sun, not a setting sun.
If the Founders did link to the Declaration
it seems to be accidental, not self-conscious.
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Q17) But according to Hal Lindsey and
Dave Hunt, doesn't the world have to get worse
before the second coming of Christ?
Of course, this is way off to the side; whether
Christ comes back in 2 years or in 2000 years,
it's still our job to apply the Word of God
to every area of life. However, prophetic
expectations have a powerful impact on the
actions of men and institutions. The cultural
impotence manifested by most of the church
during the 20th Century was due
in large measure to her defeatist eschatology.
This requires that we give consideration
to the nature of the kingdom that Jesus inaugurated
during his earthly pilgrimage. For example,
John the Baptist announced that the Kingdom
of God was at hand and that Jesus said that
if He "by the power of God do cast out demons,
you know that the kingdom of God has come
upon you". Moreover, He said that the kingdom
would grow like a tiny mustard seed to fill
the whole world. The Kingdom of God is not
awaiting the Second Coming of Christ for its
fulfillment. If the Devil can thwart God's
command for His followers to disciple the
nations what does that say about the power
of God relative to Satan? Do you think Jesus
would give us this great command, if He didn't
expect it to be fulfilled?
It is impossible to arrive at an informed
judgment on the issue of eschatology without
spending time with some of the great Post-Millennial
authors. Two excellent books of recent vintage
are Paradise Restored by David Chilton
and An Eschatology of Victory by Marcellus
Kik. These books expose the many inconsistencies
and unexplained passages of the pre-millenial
position. They demonstrate beyond any reasonable
doubt that the apocalyptic language of Matthew
24 and the book of Revelation is describing
the Destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70 and
the end of the Jewish dispensation, not some
Great Tribulation in the future.
The two positions are best summarized by
the attitude of the 12 spies. It's either
"we are grasshoppers in their sight" (pre-millenialism)
or "we are well able to overcome it" (post-millenialism).
Do we want to continue to be losers for Jesus
in history and wander in the wilderness of
cultural impotence for 40 years, or do we
want to be winners for Jesus and believe he
meant what He said when He told us to disciple
the nations?
Q18) If covenantal government is so great,
why did the Puritans deny women the right
to vote?
This really gets to the heart of the differences
in a Democracy & a Republic & explains
why America's founders limited the franchise
to male heads of households. When God deals
governmentally with the three institutions
in society -- church, state, and family he
always deals with representatives freely selected
by the people. This includes elders in the
church, magistrates in the state, and husbands
in the family. When eve sinned, God went to
Adam as the responsible party. A universal
franchise flies in the face of this principle
and puts men and women in a potentially confrontive
rather than cooperative relationship. It's
a statement that there are two governmental
heads in a given family.
In early colonial days, the basic governmental
unit of the family was given a single vote.
That vote was cast by the husband after careful
deliberation with his wife. Rather than pitting
men and women against each other, they found
contentment in cooperating within the God-ordained
roles assigned to each.
Q19) What was the cause of the War Between
the States?
The War for Southern Independence was the
first installment in God's pay-as-you-go judgment
plan for rejecting His covenant "four
score and seven years" earlier. Christian
historians such as John Eidsmoe, David Barton
(WallBuilders), Peter Marshall, and D. J. Kennedy
usually fail to make this connection. It was
not just the South, but the entire country
that was being judged. With the Civil War,
the process of centralization of power in
the Federal Government began in earnest.
It's interesting to note the role reversal
that we've seen in the two parties since the
Civil War. Today we think of the Democrat
Party as the Party of Centralization and the
Republicans champions of state's rights. But
in those days it was quite the opposite. Lincoln's
primary motive was preserving the union --
political centralization -- with slavery just
a convenient spark plug to ignite the conflagration.
The fact that Republicans claim Lincoln as
one of their patron saints is an indication
of the tremendous confusion surrounding this
era. There is boundless hypocrisy associated
with the whole era. For example, Virginia
had voted on nearly 20 occasions to outlaw
the slave trade, but in each case was prevented
by the North, who owned most of the slave
ships. That was one of the things that was
so galling to the South. They felt that the
emotional issue of slavery was being abused
and the abuse of slaves vastly over-stated,
to accomplish an underlying political agenda
to destroy state's rights.
To give a modern-day example, it is possible
to collect antedotal evidence to prove that
we have an epidemic of child abuse and use
that evidence to suppress the rights of the
vast majority of families. In the 1930s the
federal government compiled over 10,000 pages
of interviews with former slaves in its 40-volume
Slave Narratives. Eighty-six percent
of the former slaves described their masters
as "good masters," according to Steve Wilkins
in America: The First 350 Years. Ten
percent described their masters as "hard masters,"
and only four percent said they had "cruel
masters."
In many, if not most cases, slaves in the
old South were purchased for much the same
reason that Christians today engage in overseas
adoption: to rescue them from a life of hopeless
paganism. Their condition was usually happier,
healthier and more secure than that of the
typical European wage earner, who always had
to wonder where the next meal was coming from.
A study of slavery in the Bible reveals that
God condemns the slave trade as a capital
offense, but it does not condemn slave owning
under certain historical considerations --
it certainly regulates it and requires the
kind treatment of slaves, but it does not
condemn it (Eph 6:5; Col 3:22-4:1). If we
condemn slavery, without exception as "morally
unacceptable", in the same breath we
condemn the Apostle Paul (Philemon 11).
If the South was right, why then did she
lose the war, especially after so remarkable
a beginning. It was not until Gettysburg that
the vastly outmatched Southern army was finally
beaten decisively and crippled permanently.
A student of the battle can only stand in
awe at the sovereignty of God, which frustrated
Lee’s best efforts and seemed to employ the
foibles of his three generals – rather than
northern superiority – to defeat him.
As a matter of fact, the South wasn’t right.
Although the practice of slavery in the South
was generally mild and of a familial character,
the legal structure governing it was not compatible
with Biblical laws governing slavery. This
left the weak and helpless in society unprotected,
thereby permitting abuse in extreme cases
and provoking the judgment of God. This did
not, however, excuse the slanderous and violent
approach to the problem employed by the northern
abolitionists.
So we have a choice: Are we going to listen
to the Bible or are we going to listen to
the 19th Century abolitionists who plunged
the nation into a dreadful war to appease
their sanctimonious version of morality. They
chose to ignore the example of the British,
who gradually abolished the slave trade peacefully
over a 30-year period. In so doing, they firmly
established the federal government as the
supreme and unquestioned fountain of political
authority in the United States of America.
Ultimately, we are met with the same perplexing
question faced by the prophet Habakkuk, who
foresaw the approach of the Chaldean barbarians
to judge the people of God. Why does God use
the wicked to judge His people? Habbakkuk
provides the answer: "Therefore the law
is slacked, and judgment doth never go forth:
for the wicked doth compass about the righteious:
therefore wrong judgment proceedeth"
(Hab 1:4). Our appeal must be to the mercy
of God in judgment following the example of
the prophet, "O Lord, revive thy work
in the midst of the years, in the midst of
the years make known: in wrath remember mercy."
(Hab 3:2).
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